Chapter 291 Shameless
"Just just now, the third debate of the Pro-Side said that moral constraints are the result of the birth of civilization for thousands of years, but I want to say that the law is the symbol of civilization.
The law advocates freedom, fairness, and equality for everyone is a huge progress in social development. Hundreds of international students in our school summarized what they heard and felt, and found that all Western civilized countries are sound laws and respected freedom.”
He Xue, a third debater outside Beijing, made generous speeches in accordance with the debate rules and strongly promoted their views to the judges and audiences around them - law is a symbol of civilization.
Li Ye looked extremely despised.
[You are afraid that you have any misunderstandings about the laws of Western civilized countries, right? Only rich people play the law, while those without money play the violence!]
But looking at the people around him listening carefully, Li Ye was extremely helpless again.
In the early 1980s, the trend of learning from the West was not weak at all. The various advantages of the civilized world had a strong guiding and permeable mindset to the Chinese people's thoughts.
Don’t so many people who are willing to borrow money and want to smuggle out, just believe that “it’s good outside”?
"The concluding phase of the debate ends and free debate begins."
The host announced that it had entered the next stage and began a free debate. The gentle and elegant member of the Beijing University debate team who showed in the previous stages suddenly became as sharp and fierce as outside Beijing, and even a little bit extreme and hostile.
"If we lose our morality and only take the law as the standard of human behavior, then a thief steals things in front of me and I slap him, and he will ask me for compensation,
Even if there are witnesses on the scene, I need to cooperate with the relevant departments to investigate and collect evidence to prove that I hit him within the scope permitted by law.
If this social moral constraint is deeply rooted in people's hearts, the thief will only run away in a hurry after being beaten, because he is afraid that everyone present will use the big ears to beat him."
"If this society loses morality, then everyone will study the law, cheat money, cheat sex and other means. The speed of the law's improvement will never keep up with the speed of updating criminal means, and social resources will be wasted a lot."
The debate team outside Beijing was very well prepared, and only had a very short period of slowness, and then began to fight back.
"That's because our legal publicity is not enough. If everyone knows the law and abides by it, how can it still occupy social resources? Just like in many cases now, everyone knows which is right and which is wrong, and they will solve it themselves!"
"wrong!"
Li Ye stood up and said sternly: "What is the law? The law is a rigorous law that emphasizes evidence. Everything is based on evidence and everything is determined by law enforcement agencies.
If it is just a subjective determination by people, everyone will know which one is right and which one is wrong. This is not the law, but the morality.
Morality is not static. From five thousand years ago to now, in every era, new moral models have been formed. Today's law may not be tomorrow's morality."
"But today's morality may not be suitable for this era."
He Xue stood up and said righteously and sternly: "I won't say the moral dregs of 'The king wants his ministers to die, and the ministers have to die'. I will ask the righteous side for the third debate. What if your father beats you?
Even if he is wrong, according to the moral model you advocate, can you fight back? Can you put it into law? What else can this moral model be used for?"
“Ha~”
Li Ye smiled, stood up and said softly: "If my father beat me up, I will go to my grandfather and use moral means to solve the moral problems."
""
“Hahahahahaha~”
“Hahahahaha~”
"I can't stand it anymore, I really can't stand it anymore. Can debates be like this?"
He Xue's face turned red, and she stood up and said angrily: "You are just arguing with the third debate of the pro-party. Using morality to deal with morality just proves the irrationality of morality and has no reason to say."
"Do you think the law is not?"
Yang Chen suddenly stood up and said sharply: "In the Western civilized country you advocate, using the law to defeat the law is the most common and normal operation. There are many examples of demons using legal loopholes to escape judgment."
Yang Chenliang picked up a piece of white paper with a name written on it - Anna Bachmeier.
"In 1981, in West Lübeck, a villain with a record of killing J. Killed Anna Bachmeyer, who was only seven years old, with extremely cruel means.
But the villain not only falsely accused the seven-year-old child of seducing him to commit crimes, but his lawyer also proved that the villain was innocent on the grounds that the villain was mentally ill.
What is even more unacceptable is that the villain's last criminal record was the same, and he was eventually acquitted."
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The whole audience was silent, and such a bad incident was shocking in the West, let alone in the mainland in 1983.
"You're talking nonsense"
He Xue trembled and said something.
His teammates of the debate team woke up immediately and watched her stop him severely.
Such words should not be what a debater should say, because this is likely a trap thrown by the other party.
But after careful observation, Li Ye discovered that He Xue was a radical person. Once he was continuously angry, he would easily lose control and reveal flaws.
Sure enough, Li Ye took out a newspaper from under the table and handed it to Yang Chen.
This newspaper was brought by Li Ye from Hong Kong Island. The details of the case published on it are a case that caused a great discussion on the collision between morality and law in the West.
Yang Chen raised the newspaper with a righteous face and said, "In order to defend the other party's third debater's unreasonable accusations against me, I have to present evidence."
"The devil took advantage of the loopholes in the law and tried to escape from the trial on the grounds of mental abnormality. When he was about to succeed again, the seven-year-old girl's mother took out her pistol and shot the criminals eight times in court.
If you were that mother, would you be willing to follow the law and lose your life?"
"Oh~"
"Wow, where is this?"
"Didn't you listen to him? It's in West Germany, where Lubeck is a city."
"What will happen to that mother? Did she avenge her daughter but she would have to lose another life?"
"Oh, in this way, relying on the law is really a place where there are loopholes. The so-called Western civilization is not completely superior."
There were many different opinions on the scene, and countless audiences were attracted by the case Yang Chen mentioned, which led to their consciousness being secretly guided by the Beijing University debate team but did not know it.
Yang Chen paused for a few seconds, and the result was revealed after the atmosphere was strong enough.
"The girl's mother, Ms. Marian Bachmeyer's lawyer, also used mental problems as an excuse to claim that a poor mother saw the phantom of her daughter in court and then accidentally killed the abominable criminal."
"The court adopted the attorney's argument and only left Ms. Marianne Bachmeyer in prison for a year and a half. This is the use of the law to deal with the law, but what do you think is the basis for the judge's judgment? Or do you think it is law or moral?"
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"Wow huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh huh
The whole audience was silent again, even longer than the last time.
Then, there was applause from the scene. I don’t know if the applause was considered to be wonderful in Yang Chen’s example debate, or if I praise the mother who escaped legal sanctions for being smart enough.
Yang Chen sat down and enjoyed the applause at the scene with peace of mind.
He and several teammates felt that the Beijing foreign debate team was powerless to make things happen, and that He Xue's misconduct had already caused fatal consequences.
But He Xue's next words let them know what a sword is to go astray.
"The positive side only gave an example to prove a very rare case, but using morality as a way to restrain human behavior has caused countless unfair tragedies."
He Xue looked at countless audiences, especially female audiences.
"Everyone knows that we have proposed that equality between men and women is very early, and that women can support half of the sky, but because of the so-called moral example, the shackles on our women are never able to be opened.
If you don’t believe it, you can think about it. Whose surname is followed by the mother? Since men and women are equal, why should the child take his father’s surname?”
"Also, when everyone eats at home, do men always sit in the most noble position and eat the best meals, while women can't even serve?
These are moral constraints. In our new era, will we still be bullied by these so-called morals forever?
We should use new standards to restrain ourselves, that is, laws that can give us equality to all, rather than morals full of decay and dregs."
Li Ye was really shocked. He could not have expected that He Xue would fight back under such circumstances.
Her argument is that morality is not suitable as the standard for restraining human behavior.
And her argument started from this time, and the boxing movement that had been vigorously developed for decades.
Look at all the female classmates at the scene. They were just giving thumbs up to the mother who fired eight shots, but now they were completely pulled over by He Xue.
Why?
Because of the interests.
Just a few slogans of "Everyone is equal" can change the conventions for thousands of years and get things that they cannot get for thousands of years.
Is this a huge profit?
Otherwise, do you think this movement can develop vigorously for decades, and you can't see the end at first glance?
When I worked hard to serve the men, how could I enjoy the pleasure of plundering my white teeth and riding my neck?
However, just when Li Ye thought He Xue was just taking a different approach, He Xue's words made him understand what it means to "those who calculate people will also count them."
He Li Ye is plotting against He Xue with a radical temper, and He Xue is also plotting against Li Ye.
"If you don't think these things are deep enough, then I would like to think about it. Who is the divorced men and women in our society today who are more hurt? And do these injuries all come from the so-called morality? The so-called five thousand years of civilization birth?"
"Why do the man always despise the woman because of different opinions and different outlook on life breakups? Why do neighbors curse women and rarely hold men accountable?"
"I would like to ask the third debater of the Pro-Side. If your fiancée is different from your ambitions and then separates from you, will you use moral examples as a restraint, scold her, despise her, or even insult her?"
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Wen Leyu, who was in the audience, almost jumped over and drew people.
[Who are you talking about? Are you talking about me?]
But Li Ye had already spit out three words lightly.
"shameless."
Chapter completed!